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Wanting to make a Pre Heresy Army? here is a list of what can be used and not used

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Post  Hinkel Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:54 pm

As you all know i am huge into the Pre Heresy time , so after alot of research I came across this and it would help people who may in the future want to make a Space Marine Legion or Imperial Army that fits the Fluff.  So my Imperial Army Guys may be getting a couple old MK1 Rhinos i have for fluff lol.  Enjoy everyone.

Rhino
Pre-Heresy. (source: Imperial Armour II, Index Astartes, Collected Visions)
Probably also in use with Imperial army during this period (source: Imperial Armour II)

Razorback
Post-Heresy. Introduced M.36 (Source: Imperial Armour II)

Land Raider
Pre-Heresy. (source: Imperial Armour II, Index Astartes, Collected Visions)
Also available to the Imperial Army during the Great Crusade (source: Imperial Armour II, Index Astartes)

Land Raider Proteus
Pre-Heresy. (source: Collected Visions)

Land Raider Achilles
Pre-Heresy. Inroduced late Great Crusade(source: Forgeworld)

Land Raider Helios
Post-Heresy. Introduced M38 (Source: Imperial Armour II)

Land Raider Crusader
Post-Heresy. Introduced M39 (Source: Imperial Armour II)

Land Raider Redeemer
Post-heresy. Developed after M39. (Source: Codex Space Marines 5th Ed.)

Predator Destructor
Pre-Heresy. (source: Imperial Armour II, Index Astartes, Collected Visions)
Probably also in use with Imperial army during this period (source: Imperial Armour II)

Predator Annihilator
Post-Heresy. Introduced M.36 (Source: Imperial Armour II)

Baal Predator
Pre-Heresy. Early Great Crusade, only used by the Blood Angels as they did not pass the STC on to the Mechanicum. (Source: Index Astartes, Imperial Armour II)

Whirlwind
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Collected Visions, Novels - Fulgrim, The Primarchs - 'the Lion')

Vindicator
Heresy-era. Early Heresy period (Source: Apocalypse expansion)

Land Speeder
Pre-Heresy. Introduced late in the Great Crusade. (source: Imperial Armour II, Collected Visions)
Also in use by the Imperial Army during this period (Source: Imperial Armour II)

Land Speeder Tornado
Pre-Heresy. Introduced late in the Great Crusade. (source: Imperial Armour II, Collected Visions)

Land Speeder Typhoon
Pre-Heresy. Introduced late in the Great Crusade. (source: Novels - Prospero Burns)

Land Speeder Tempest
Post-Heresy. Introduced M.38 (Source: Imperial Armour II)

Dreadnought
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Collected Visions, Imperial Armour Vol. II, Novels)

Furioso Dreadnought
Pre-Heresy/Heresy Era. (Source: Codex BA)

Contemptor Dreadnought
Pre-Heresy/Heresy Era. (Source: Collected Visions, Forgeworld)

Bike
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Collected Visions)

Attack Bike
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Collected Visions)

Imperial Jetbike
Pre-Heresy. (Sources: Collected Visions, Codex: Dark Angels)

Jetbike Attack 'Chariot'
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Collected Visions)

Stormbird
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Novels)

Thunderhawk
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Collected Visions, Novels)

Caestus Assault Ram
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Imperial Armour 10)

Immolator
Post-Heresy. Introduced M35 (Source: Index Astartes, Codex Sisters of Battle, Imperial Armour Vol. II)

Exorcist
Post-Heresy. Introduced M.36 (Source: Index Astartes Vol. II)

Leman Russ
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Imperial Armour I, Novels - Legion, Mechanicum)

Leman Russ Executioner
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Imperial Armour I)

Leman Russ Vanquisher
Unknown. Introduced some point before M.35 (Source: Imperial Armour I)

Leman Russ Conquerer
Post-Heresy. Introduced M.38 (Source: Imperial Armour I)

Leman Russ Annihilator
Post-Heresy. Based on the Predator Annihilator design (Source: Imperial Armour V)

Leman Russ Punisher
Post-Heresy. 'Recent' Imperial design (Source: Imperial Guard Codex)

Malcador
Unknown, probably pre-Heresy. It 'may' pre-date the Leman Russ (Source: Imperial Armour VI?)

Macharius
Post-Heresy. Based on components used during the Great Crusade, but not produced until long afterwards (Source: Imperial Armour V)

Sentinel
Pre-Heresy/Heresy-era. (Source: Collected Visions)

Chimera
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Collected Visions, Novels - Legion)

Basilisk
Pre-Heresy/Heresy era. (Source: Collected Visions)

Gryphon
Pre-Heresy/Heresy era. (Source: Collected Visions)

Hydra
Pre-Heresy/Heresy era. (Source: Collected Visions)

Dominus
Likely Post-Heresy. Developed on a 'lost' Forge World which was rediscovered (Source: Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2nd ed)

Baneblade/Fellblade
Pre-Heresy/Heresy-era. (Source: Collected Visions, Novels - Fallen Angels)

Shadowsword/Stormsword
Pre-Heresy/Heresy-era. (Source: Collected Visions)

Valkyrie
Pre-Heresy/Heresy-era. (Source: Collected Visions)

Centaur
Pre-Heresy. (Source: Novels - Legion)

Testudo APC
Pre-Heresy/Heresy Era. (Source: Novels - Fallen Angels)

Condor Assault Carrier
Pre-Heresy/Heresy Era. (Source: Novels - Fallen Angels)

Ragnarok
Post-Heresy. Introduced M40. (Source: Epic:Swordwind)

Minotaur
Probably Pre-Heresy. May pre-date the Imperium itself (Source: Imperial Armour 7)

Valdor
Possible Heresy-era. Probably introduced during the Scouring (Source: Imperial Armour 7)

Blood Slaughterer
Pre-Heresy origins. Early variants developed by the World Eaters from standard Dreadnoughts(Source: Imperial Armour 7)

Mechanicus Ordinatus
Pre-Heresy/Heresy Period (Source: Epic:Space Marine, Novels - Fallen Angels)

Castellan Pattern Rhino
Pre-Heresy, unique to the Iron Warriors Legion. Useable as a mobile bunker (source: Angel Exterminatus)

Tekton-pattern Rhino
Pre-Heresy. (source: Calth that Was)

Rhino Advancer
Pre-Heresy. (source: Know No Fear)

Bullock Pattern Jetbike
Pre-Heresy. (source: Brotherhood of the Storm)

Scimitar Pattern Jetbike
Pre-Heresy. (source: The Horus Heresy: Betrayal)

Javelin Attack Speeder
Pre-Heresy. (source: Massacre)

Thunderstrike Assault Gun
Pre-Heresy, possibly unique to the Iron Warriors Legion. (source: Raven's Flight, Angel Exterminatus)

Sicaran Battle Tank
Pre-Heresy. (source: Massacre)

Mastadon Heavy Transport
Pre-Heresy. (source: The Primarchs, Fear to Tread)

Spartan Assault Tank
Pre-Heresy. (source: The Horus Heresy: Betrayal)

Typhon Heavy Siege Tank
Pre-Heresy. (source: The Horus Heresy: Betrayal)

Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer
Pre-Heresy. (source: The Horus Heresy: Betrayal)

Deathhammer
Pre-Heresy, in use with Imperial army during this period. (source: The Horus Heresy: Betrayal)

Bloodhammer super-heavy assault carrier
Pre-Heresy (source: Betrayer)

Greywing
Pre-Heresy. (source: The First Heretic)

Whispercutter
Pre-Heresy. (source: Corax-Soulforge)

Storm Eagle
Pre-Heresy. (source: The Horus Heresy: Betrayal, Fear to Tread, Angel Exterminatus)

Stormcrow
Pre-Heresy. (source: A Thousand Sons, Betrayer)

Shadowhawk gunship
Pre-Heresy. (source: Corax: Soulforge)

Stormhawk
Pre-Heresy. (source: A Thousand Sons)

Harbinger Assault Craft
Pre-Heresy. (source: Tales of Heresy)

Horta RV Local-Space Shuttle
Pre-Heresy. (source: Brotherhood of the Storm)

Cargo 9 escort cutter
Pre-Heresy. (source: The Outcast Dead)

Lotus Fighter
Pre-Heresy. (source: A Thousand Sons)

Raptore
Pre-Heresy. (source: Fulgrim)

Firelance Interceptor
Pre-Heresy. (source: The Outcast Dead)

Deathbird Interceptor
Pre-Heresy. (source: Tales of Heresy)

Hawkwing Interceptor
Pre-Heresy (source: Fear To Tread)

Raven Fighter
Pre-Heresy (source: Flight of the Eisenstein, Nemesis, Fear To Tread)

Gyrfalcon Fighter
Pre-Heresy. (source: Betrayer)

Wraith Starfighter
Pre-Heresy. (source: Shadows of Treachery

Fury Starfighter
Pre-Heresy. (source: Shadows of Treachery

Apis Bomber
Pre-Heresy. (source: A Thousand Sons)

Castellan Bomber
Pre-Heresy. (source: Tales of Heresy)

Corsair Bomber
Pre-Heresy. (source: Prince of Crows)

Avenger Strike Fighter
Pre-Heresy. (source: The Horus Heresy: Betrayal)

Jackal Gunship
Pre-Heresy. (source: Legion)

Fire Raptor Gunship
Pre-Heresy. (source: Corax-Soulforge, Massacre)

Also the Malcador, Minotaur and Salamander Command/Scout are now definitely Pre-Heresy (Malcador from the Horus Heresy: Betrayal, Minotaur from Know no Fear) and the entry should be edited to reflect this.
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Post  grots life Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:28 pm

This is a great list you came up with. Where does the Thunderfire Cannon fall on the list? Also, a look at the Forge World website is a good source for 30K available items not listed, such as Mechanicus troops.
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Post  Hinkel Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:36 pm

grots life wrote:This is a great list you came up with.  Where does the Thunderfire Cannon fall on the list?  Also, a look at the Forge World website is a good source for 30K available items not listed, such as Mechanicus troops.
I have not come across a book or list yet saying it was pre heresy, so i got to guess it was post heresy as of right now
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