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I wasn't suggesting getting rid of your army. Just use the models you like, but with a different codex. All marines just about have the same weapons with some exceptions of course, but if you want to be a diehard vanilla marine player try out new stuff.

Things aren't going well for our Smurfs!

I am retooling a bit. I think my last list was balanced. Unfortunately, it really seems that balanced can't win me a competitive game. That being the case, I have changed up the list to the below and will be playtesting it.

Red tac squad is given Tank Hunters. Sicarius will join this combat squad and push forward with the other combat squad for objectives. 6 total scoring units of combat squads all but 2 in lazplaz.

Anything you guys would change? As you can tell, main focus is shooting.

HQ Sicarius

Elite Dreadnought
2 TLAC

Elite Dreadnought
2 TLAC

Elite Dreadnought
2 TLAC

Troops Tac Squad (10)
Sgt w/ Boltgun/PF
Meltagun
LazCannon
Lazplaz


Troops Tac Squad (10)
Sgt w/ Boltgun/PF
Flamer
LazCannon
Lazplaz

Troops Combat Squad (5)
Sgt
LazPlaz

Troops Combat Squad (5)
Sgt
LazPlaz

Fast Att Landspeeders (2)
MM/HF

Fast Att Attack Bike (2)

Heavy Predator
Autocannon
Laz Sponsons

Heavy Predator
Autocannon
Heavy Bolters

Heavy Predator
Autocannon
Heavy Bolters

Sicarius?

You have so many other/better options? I would rather use a basic librarian or any other "boosting" captain.

as a person who helped run alot of the LGS tournies and GT's where i came from i might make a suggestion on what armies you will meet at any big GT. basically 60% of all the armies will be Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Grey Knights, Dark Eldar, Necrons, and Imperial Guard. most of the blood angel players will be playiner razorspam, 8 dreadnought death company or DOA. most everyone will be using mephiston. space wolves will be running either loganwing or thier version of razorspam. grey knights will be running dragowing, psifleman, or henchman. expect every necron to be using imotep and the ground shaker dude with like a royal court or somthing. dark eldar will be running their raiderspam. and almost every imperial guard will be playing a version of a leaf blower list. the rest of the list will be Daemons(fatecrusher), orks will either be a kan wall or battlewagon list. vanilla marines will be running vulkan drop pod list. the only competitive chaos list is plauge triple defiler list. other then that. you might get lucky and see an eldar, tau, black templar dark angel or nid players. but if i were you i would look at all the above list i named because they are the most popular.

on another note, adepticon just finished and 8 out of the top 16 for 40k were grey knight list...